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INTRODUCTION
Simone: Hi everyone and welcome to Upper Beginner Hungarian. This is season 1, lesson 6 Are these Hungarian Kids Driving you Crazy?. I am Simone.
Csaba: And I am Csaba.
Simone: In this lesson, we’re going to discuss sentences where there are more than one objects possessed.
Csaba: The conversation takes place at Susan’s place.
Simone: The conversation is between Susan and Péter, her boyfriend.
Csaba: They use the informal language.
Simone: Please listen to the dialogue now.
DIALOGUE
Susan: Ahh, az idegeim...
Dani: Mi történt?
Susan: A gyerekeim. Kikészítenek.
Dani: Ugyan, biztos aranyosak.
Susan: Áthozod a cuccaid?
Dani: Igen. Örülök, hogy együtt lakunk.
English Host: Let’s hear the conversation one time slowly.
Susan: Ahh, az idegeim...
Dani: Mi történt?
Susan: A gyerekeim. Kikészítenek.
Dani: Ugyan, biztos aranyosak.
Susan: Áthozod a cuccaid?
Dani: Igen. Örülök, hogy együtt lakunk.
English Host: Now let’s hear it with the English translation.
Susan: Ahh, az idegeim...
Simone: Argh, my nerves...
Dani: Mi történt?
Simone: What happened?
Susan: A gyerekeim. Kikészítenek.
Simone: My kids. They're driving me nuts.
Dani: Ugyan, biztos aranyosak.
Simone: Come on, I'm sure they're very cute.
Susan: Áthozod a cuccaid?
Simone: Will you bring your stuff over?
Dani: Igen. Örülök, hogy együtt lakunk.
Simone: Yes. I'm glad we live together.
POST CONVERSATION BANTER
Simone: Aranyos means “cute,” right?
Csaba: Yes. And so does a handful of verbs. Cuki is also very often used. It is short for cukor, or “sugar.” Guys don’t use this word very often.
Simone: Is it a compliment if I all you aranyos?
Csaba: Well, it is a bit of a backhanded compliment, because aranyos is normally the diplomatic answer to the question “do you like him?” It means something like, “not very handsome, but I don’t want to say anything bad.”
Simone: Aranyos. I won’t use it then.
Csaba: You can, just know that it might have another meaning as well if you’re talking about someone from the other gender. Cuki is somewhat better, but it still doesn’t mean you like the person. When talking about kids or pets, it is of course perfectly fine to use.
Simone: All right. Let’s go to the vocab section.
VOCAB LIST
Simone: Let's take a look at the vocabulary for this lesson.
The first word we shall see is:
Csaba: ideg [natural native speed]
Simone: nerve
Csaba: ideg [slowly - broken down by syllable]
Csaba: ideg [natural native speed]
Next:
Csaba: történik [natural native speed]
Simone: "happen"
Csaba: történik [slowly - broken down by syllable]
Csaba: történik [natural native speed]
Next:
Csaba: kikészít [natural native speed]
Simone: drive somebody nuts
Csaba: kikészít [slowly - broken down by syllable]
Csaba: kikészít [natural native speed]
Next:
Csaba: ugyan [natural native speed]
Simone: come on
Csaba: ugyan [slowly - broken down by syllable]
Csaba: ugyan [natural native speed]
Next:
Csaba: aranyos [natural native speed]
Simone: cute
Csaba: aranyos [slowly - broken down by syllable]
Csaba: aranyos [natural native speed]
Next:
Csaba: áthoz [natural native speed]
Simone: bring over
Csaba: áthoz [slowly - broken down by syllable]
Csaba: áthoz [natural native speed]
Next:
Csaba: cucc [natural native speed]
Simone: stuff
Csaba: cucc [slowly - broken down by syllable]
Csaba: cucc [natural native speed]
Next:
Csaba: együtt [natural native speed]
Simone: together
Csaba: együtt [slowly - broken down by syllable]
Csaba: együtt [natural native speed]
Next:
Csaba: lakik [natural native speed]
Simone: live
Csaba: lakik [slowly - broken down by syllable]
Csaba: lakik [natural native speed]
VOCAB AND PHRASE USAGE
Simone: Let's have a closer look at the usage for some of the words and phrases from this lesson.
Csaba: In this lesson the firs vocab item we cover is “az idegeim.”
Simone: “Oh, my nerves...”
Csaba: Az idegeim... Ideg means “nerve” and it is in plural possessive, which we’ll cover later in this lesson.
Simone: We’re complaining a lot in this season it seems.
Csaba: Not us, but Susan does. Who is a completely different person from you. The next expression is this
Simone: “Drive somebody crazy.”
Csaba: Kikészít.
Simone: Can you use it in a sentence?
Csaba: Kikészítenek az irodában.
Simone: “They’re driving me crazy in the office.”
Csaba: Kikészítenek az irodában. The verb is actually a compound of ki-, a prefix that means “out” and készít, or “prepare, make.” This is one of those cases where the prefix changes the meaning radically.
Simone: What if you use a different prefix?
Csaba: For example “felkészít” means “help prepare someone for something.” You can say this
Simone: “I’m helping the students prepare.”
Csaba: Sometimes the prefix changes the original meaning so much, that you can find the prefixed version in the dictionary.
Simone: All right, let’s move on.
Csaba: Ugyan is an interjection that is used much like “come on” in “Come on, it can't be that bad!”
Simone: Can you use it in a sentence?
Csaba: Ugyan, nem lesz gond!
Simone: “Come on, it will be fine.”
Csaba: Ugyan, nem lesz gond!
Simone: All right, with this message we go to the grammar point.

Lesson focus

Simone: In this lesson we’re going to discuss what happens when there are more than one objects possessed and we’re going to say sentences like “my kids are driving me nuts.”
Csaba: But first let’s explain. Nouns you possess have to be pluralized and possessitized... possessetivized... possessitated.
Simone: /the correct word/
Csaba: /mumbles/ possessened...possess Anyway, put into possessive. This process means more tables and endings, but not too complicated, don’t worry.
Simone: All right, what is the first example?
Csaba: Ahh, az idegeim...
Susan: “Argh, my nerves...”
Csaba: Ahh, az idegeim... The first noun we’ll use is ideg, or “nerve.” In plural possessive it is idegeim.i The first step is identifying what the last sound is in the noun.
Susan: Ideg. G.
Csaba: It is a consonant. When a noun ends in a consonant, what you have to do is put it in the third person possessive first.
Susan: Based on previous lessons that will be idege.
Csaba: Correct. Idege. This you have to pluralize, which is done by attaching -im in the first person singular. Idegeim.
Susan: So let’s repeat again. Take a noun with a consonant final, attach third person possessive then attach plural possessive.
Csaba: Right. The first step is always third person, no matter whose things you talk about. The actual person will be expressed by the last step, the plural ending.
Susan: Can we have another example?
Csaba: A gyerekeim.
Susan: “My kids.”
Csaba: A gyerekeim. This means “my kids.” Both possessive and plural. The noun you take is gyerek, or “child.” This ends in a -k, a consonant sound. In third person possessive
Susan: Let’s use it in a sentence.
Csaba: A gyerekeim kinn vannak.
Susan: “My kids are outside.”
Csaba: A gyerekeim kinn vannak.
Susan: Now what if the noun ends in a vowel?
Csaba: When a vowel ends in a vowel that is other than -i, all you have to do is add the plural possessive.
Susan: So it is one step less.
Csaba: Right. I’ll give you an example. Autó is a noun ending in a vowel. The first person ending you attach is still -im. Autóim is “my cars.”
Simone: Use it a sentence now.
Csaba: Az autóim kinn vannak.
Simone: “My cars are outside.”
Csaba: Az autóim kinn vannak. We have covered the plural conjugation for words ending in vowels and consonants. Remember! Words that end in -i are suffixed like they were consonants.
Simone: All right. Make sure you guys look at the conjugation tables in the PDF guide and learn the appropriate endings.

Outro

Simone: That just about does it for today.
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Simone: Until next time, bye.
Csaba: Sziasztok!

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Thursday at 06:30 PM
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Hi everyone!

So far how are you doing with the Hungarian possessive?

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Wednesday at 10:51 PM
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Hello marti_mg!


No problem, it happens!

Anyway, your reasoning was correct and the resource you found is accurate!

Yes, könyvük would be singular as in one book, and könyveik would be the plural version, implying multiple books.


We hope the explanation was sufficient! 😇

Keep up the great work and keep on learning!


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marti_mg
Monday at 03:43 PM
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Oops, posted before refreshing and didn't see Vivien's response! but, i see now my error was in assuming the table/list was for all plural endings like in the lesson. Sorry, my bad! I didn't compare anything except the -ük, which is the most obvious difference, which surprised me, but, in fact the whole table/list was in singular (hanem nem plural) [no -i- anywhere should have been part of the clues, etc.].

marti_mg
Monday at 03:32 PM
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Nos, találtam ezt:

az én könyvem --> az enyém

a te könyved --> a tied

az ő könyve --> az övé

a mi könyvünk --> a mienk

a ti könyvetek --> a tietek

az ő(k)* könyvük --> az övék

(from hungarianreference website)


So, according to the steps in the lesson: könyv --> könyv+e--> könyve + ik, but here again it is +ük --> könyvük


ok! maybe, i figured out the mistake, their (singular) book= könyvük, their (singular) nerve=idegük, their (singular) child= gyerekük and their (plural) könyveik, idegeik, gyerekeik?


[when filling in a table, switching by mistake can easily happen, for me I learned a lot (hopefully), but still not clear on how to use "conjugated infinitives"]

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Monday at 03:22 PM
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Hello marti_mg!


The third person plural endings are correct in the case of idegük and gyerekük. The reason for this is that the words are in their possessive singular forms. So for example the -ik version would look like -gyerekeik and idegeik. This would also be correct, but this would imply they have multiple children while the simple gyerekük (or gyermekük) implies they only have one child.


We are not sure if we understand your question correctly, but if you are looking for the third person plural version of -gyere- it would be -gyertek. Gyertek is an oddball because you couldn't for example express that they are coming in, you would have to use the proper conjugation of the verb -jön- for that -jönnek.


Hope this helps,

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marti_mg
Sunday at 05:32 PM
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Below, I think the 3pp endings are off, should be from lesson's chart: "-ik gyerekeik" and so, "-ik idegeik" (their nerves)?


MONDAY AT 03:48 AM Szia Fay!

ideg / gyerek ... idegük / gyerekük.


The only grammatical "-ük" reference I could find, oddly, was for verb-endings of the 3pp "conjugated infinitive", menniük, jönniük, lenniük (which I don't know how to use!).


Secondly, if "gyere" is a verb, as in "gyere be" what is the 3pp "conjugated infinitive"? i searched, for fun(?), to compare the -ük ending, but can't find it on the various Hungarian conjugation websites.


Thank you so much for the opportunity to learn this amazing language (which (my) magyar nagyszületteim spoke)!

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Monday at 10:08 PM
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Hi Jessica,

"-nek" is a verb ending. + "e" needs to be added as it would be hard to pronounce the word without it.

This is a so called epenthetic vowel.


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Jessica
Saturday at 01:40 AM
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can I know why there is e between verb and nek for Kikészítenek?

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Monday at 11:20 PM
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Hi Arlet,


You're right, and you've put the endings together, but in these cases (plural possessive) we simple shorten the endings: kutyá(kja)im, autó(kja)ik.

These are the correct forms of possessive.

Thanks for your comment!


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Arlet
Sunday at 05:17 AM
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In the grammar there are a few example sentences in plural: a hajóid szepek( your boats are nice). Why is one the word szép in plural and not the word a hajöid? The same with: az én kutyáim nagyok, why isn't it kutyákjaim nagyok. ( kutyák(plural), than the third person possessive form -ja and at last the einding -im?

Another example in the grammar: ezek az ö autóik. Ezek is plural, but why not the autókjaik?😳😞. Can you explain this for me. Thanks!

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Monday at 03:48 AM
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Szia Fay!


Thank you very much for your comment!


Actually, ideg is composed of high vowels (e, é, i, í, ö, ő, ü, ű), this way, the associated suffix will also be high:


ideg / gyerek

idegem/gyerekem

ideged / gyereked

idege / gyereke

idegünk / gyerekünk

idegetek / gyereketek

idegük / gyerekük.


Please do not hesitate to come back to us if you have any questions!

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